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Box 120, Audio-cassette RW074A

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1. Air Date: 1994 Apr. 17
2. Producer: RTLM and Radio Rwanda
3. Original Language: Kinyarwanda, French
4. Side A consists of a discussion hosted by Agensta Mukarutama featuring Murego, Ngirumpatse, Nsengiyumva, and Mugenzi.
5. Murego begins with a monologue arguing, (1) that people are beginning to recognize that the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF)'s goal is to return Rwanda to its pre-revolutionary time in which "some people commanded . . . and others obeyed," (2) that the RPF was deluded and "made a mistake" in thinking that it could dominate as before, (3) that Rwandans have learned their history and are "saying 'no'" to a repetition of history and are "resisting en masse" the RPF's attempt to "'live handsomely at the expense of his subordinates,'" (4) and that "Rwandans will never again…be a people of slaves."
6. Agenesta Mukarutama then continues along the same lines suggesting that the RPF has brought the current hardship upon itself, having fallen "victim to its [own] illusions," and that the "Tutsi" could have predicted that this "socio-political disaster" would follow from their attempt to bring back apartheid.
7. Murego then asserts that, unsatisfied with the right of return offered by the Arusha Accords, the RPF wanted "conquest and revenge," wanted "to massacre their fellows [and] enslave a people who has said 'no' to slavery."
8. Mukarutama then introduces Ngirumpatse, MRND President, who argues (1) that it would be a "mistake" to think the "Revolutions [of 1959] was finished once and for all," (2) that in this respect, the Arusha Accords were an exceptional attempt on the part of Rwandans to prevent a repetition of history.
9. Ngirumpatse continues by stressing the exceptional generosity of the Arusha Accords and suggesting that the RPF's stubbornly monarchist desire for domination prevents it from accepting these accords.
10. Ngirumpatse then asserts that the future of the Arusha Accords depends on the RPF and that as long as it continues to "provoke war" (1) Rwandans will defend themselves, (2) that the RPF's attacks are making Ngirumaptse fear the day when the "minority" sends the "majority of the population" "to the bush," (3) and that this fear explains the desire to see "the minority . . . deleted from the face of the country."
11. Nsengiyumva then echoes Ngirumpatse's appeal to the RPF to abide by the Arusha Accords.
12. In an exchange with Mukarutamu, Mugenzi then suggests (1) that both the RPF and the international community were "warned" of the "disaster" that could ensue if the RPF did not abide by the Arusha Accords and so are "responsible" for what has happened, (2) and that negotiations have been made even more difficult by the President's "assassination" and the "fear" and "fury" that it has generated among the Rwandan people.
13. Next, Ngirumpatse defends the Rwandan government against charges that it is constitutionally invalid. In the course of his defense, Ngirumpatse again refers to RPF "illusions."
14. Mugenzi then suggests (1) that the international community is largely "responsible" (this word is repeated many times) for the "socio-political disorder" that some journalist call "barbarity." (2) that the international community was "responsible" for allowing the unchecked "infiltration of RPF agents and soldiers in different quarters of Kigali," (3) that the President's assassination by the RPF bears witness to the UNAMIR's faulty surveillance, (4) that he, Mugenzi, warned several UN ambassadors that their treatment of the RPF was unacceptable and threatened to bring about events for which the UN would be "responsible."
15. Repeating the word "responsibility," Mukarutamu asks Ngirumpatse to say more about the Belgian contingent's role.
16. Ngirumpatse "denounces" the international community's role in the "disaster," alleging that in the UNAMIR and Belgian controlled regions of Kirambo and Mutura the RPF was allowed "to kill the population," including politicians like Gatabazi Felicien and Bucyana.
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18. In this round table discussion hosted by Agensta Mukarutama featuring Murego, Ngirumpatse, Nsengiyumva, and Mugenzi, the participants discuss RPF plans to return Rwanda to its pre-revolutionary state in which the minority enslaved the majority. The speakers suggest that both the RPF and the international community were warned about the consequences of an RPF attack and so are now responsible for Rwanda's "socio-political disaster."

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