Reel 0547, 1961 June 17

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Note 1: "June 17, 1961. 821 6th Ave. In stereo in mikes but not in effect. The preliminary group gathering which launched "Photography Made (Even More) Difficult." And Carole and Gene in private."; Note 2: CDI 1. Many voices in loft. "Alan Arbus" and "Avedon" mentioned (not there) 2. Smith's voice: "Dave, can you open that further window over there?". Also "How many other people are we expecting?" "Tim Canerwell" (sp?) "Frank" and Smith's entrance to class "Jim" 3. Smith:"Microphone the other one is connected and "We may incorporate a jam session later." 4. List of names said: Nancy Flowers, Steve Shapiro, Art Freed, Dick Lefkowitz, Warren Butter, Dave Heath, Charlie Harbutt, Dave Ryan. Putting photo of bass player on display. Smith on Carole: "...she's skipped town" "next week we'll hold it downstairs...where we'll have more room....ashtray" 5. Smith: "is this the official launching of 'photography made difficult' number two called 'even more difficult'?" and "remember George Margolis?" "Owen" and "Is this the night to discuss projects?" Discussion of photo critique 6. Good****essay and exhibition talk and Smith on class/assignment 7. Pittsburgh and nature of difficulty of subject. Pittsburgh as "song cycle" exhibition 8. "Dave's book" and "Al Wooley" (Wooley book reference) 9. Steve Shapiro and Nate. Method layouts and "learned more out of that session" 10. layout talk, dynamics of workshop sessions 11. feedback (end) CDII cont'd class in loft 1. "Nancy" "Portugal and Boston University. Organ grinder gone to Florida 2. cont'd and Siamese twins Chicago photos compared 3. cont'd 4. "Nate" and photos: Spanish community in New York. 5. Smith on midwife story 6. Symbolism. Dave talking, Pop Photo and Wilson Hicks. "Hi Ken" 7. layout problems and solutions " 8. cont'd essay lecture and discussion 9. discussion 10. "Jim and Lou, and Carole, what's your project (to Carole Thomas) 11. "$25 plus $25 in four to six weeks" 12. logistics and class dynamic, individual responsibility CDIII 1. cont'd Five panels downstairs 2. "do we charge the mice extra?" David Heath and Claude by name. 3. discussion 4. logistics of class, Twelve people, five panels. 5. Includes: New School class, Bill Long, Elvin Simone, Harold Feinstein's class, **"room was miked and you didn't tell us" (Mics) and "doesn't Dave know I taped his show that night?" 6.****Ethics of recording class. Photo vs. audio discussion. And "All future sessions will be taped." 7. Friday 8pm volunteers to put up pics (class show/display?) 8. Lou Draper and Dave Rayan, list 9. cont'd, Chapel Hill mentioned. 10. small talk, class 11. small talk, several audible passages 12. Smith and piano discussion. Money talk and "Phil, last year...at least Phil was getting something out of it." CDIV 1. cont'd with compairing students Phil and Claude. Mainly Smith, Carole, and Lou in loft talking. **Creativity. Good discussion. 2. teaching and ones own work compared, cost/benefit. 3. "Julia" and "lou" and "Let's have a picture examination, Carole, bring 'em up." About "Julia Flowers," student. And Carole: "Can I maybe work on my labor day story? Can I be your scholarship student?" 4. cont'd less talk 5. ambient and photo discussion, critique 6. cont'd 7. cont'd CDV 1. cont'd with talk and food instead of photos as subject Carole: "Can we go out later?" 2. Talk, cont'd, includes: Art worked at Rawlings, Rothman, Nate, Dave Gordon, Lou Draper, Dave Brand, money, Carole's money and role in darkroom. 3. cont'd inlcudes: Tim Canter Life story layout . Organ on TV/Radio/LP 4. cont'd includes: Gordon Parks photos 5. cont'd, Art and small talk 6. cont'd talk, critique and class 7. "Dylan Thomas" David Galloway, food, etc.. 8. photo talk and idea to go out for a beer 9. photo talk 10. Miles Davis LP 'Elevator to the Scaffold" and Anatomy of a Murder and Gerry Mulligan, all mentioned. 11. MIles Davis Spanish album, Gil Evans (Sketches of Spain) mention of Bellevue and criticism of Miles Davis. 12. cont'd talk, Smith: "You're going to help me give this course, Lou." CDVI 1. ambient street, and loft movement 2. cont'd "he works with sounds, too, amazing" "Carole got a lot done" (book work?) 3. Kline photos? editing and "check for rent" 4. 300 pages, Big Book draft. $500 on paper alone. 5. cont'd talk, Smith up and down stairs 6-12 cont'd loft work and putter CDVII 1. cont'd ambient-4. Smith sex sounds, XXX PRIVATE. 5. classical music 6. cont'd. 7. talk 8. more private and sex sounds with talk 10. "we're not quite up to our eleventh anniversary (months) yet." 11 and 12, more moans and groans. CDVIII 1. PRIVATE sex sounds cont'd and talk 2. talk cont'd and singing 3. cont'd 4. cont'd 5. cont'd 6. cont'd ;

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