Xu Qingming (b. 1953), who is the youngest among Luo Bing's interviewees, is a resident of Changxing Village, Gaolong Town, Chaling County, Hunan Province. In this interview, Xu recalls how people ate chaff, sweet potatoes, and etc. to survive the famine in 1960. During the Cultural Revolution, Xu was appointed the commander of the local Red Guards because his class status is poor peasant. He talks about his experiences of learning Chairman Mao's works in the county as the representative of the local people's commune, raiding landlords' houses, organizing meetings to criticize landlords, and singing model play songs and other revolutionary songs during this period. Some of the supporting documents for this interview have been translated into English.