Zou Dengke (b. 1938) was born in Zoujia Village, Shangdian Town, Binzhou City, Shandong Province. In this interview, Zou recalls life during the Great Famine. In the beginning, Zou and his wife tried everything to earn money for food, saving most food for their children. After the People's Commune canteen was established, he could get food after carrying coal every day, and life became slightly better. Although he saw food get wasted and knows that the famine was not a natural disaster, Zou still insist that the famine is not caused by Chairman Mao's policy, but the cadres at the local level. The filmmaker's description of this interview has been translated into English.