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Note 1: "Session - 2 In the Dark Room & Studio."; Note 2: CDI 1. Moby Dick on Channel 9, TV. Mid scene, singing. 2. Sucrets ad, Nu Soft fabric softener ad, 3. cont'd Moby Dick 4. about Ahab then Miller High Life beer ad. 5. cont'd 6. Jazz ad for Chase Manhattan, then Camera Ad, Spanish Harlem street gang TV show ad and 7. Love-It oven cleaner ad (safe to skin) then back to Moby Dick 8. cont'd 9. cont'd then Ad, for Colgate Toothpaste, Guardel 10 Ad for new Rose Lotion dish soap. 11. con'td show and then ad for California travel, American Airlines, 4-Way cold tablets. 12. Back to show 13. cont'd 14. ad for Cambell's Vegetable soup, ad for frozen cream of shrimp soup, and ad for 7-Up (soda). CDII 1. Moby Dick, cont'd ambient section and sighting the whale 2. Listerine ad and Chanel 9 Ten thirty film ID. Ad for Dodge Rambler '65 car. 2. film 4. film 5. ad for Danish Total vitamin cereal and Gold Medal Flour 6. film 7. ad for Ban deoderant, ad for Wilkinson steel razors. 8. film 9. film 10. Ocean Spray Cranberry juice Announcment for Channel 9 (current) Million Dollar Movie: Moby Dick. and next week's feature, "A View from the Bridge". Ad for Balllentine beer with flip caps. Powdered milk ad, Puss 'n Boots catfood ad, and on Friday at 9pm on Channel 9, Ben Gazarra in The Witness. 11. Documentary show on New York gangs with Petey Thomas, Puerto Rican gangs in Spanish Harlem, and the Youth Development Incorporated (reform program). 12. nature of gangs, then Ad for Pertussen Actin cough medicine and New Tone vinyl wax from Simonize. 13. gang documentary, doo woop 14. cont'd doc. CDIII Tyrih beer ad (beer on the rocks) Ad for Nair, Ad for Carter's laxative, then back to gangs documentary 2. cont'd 3. cont'd, then Lipton soup Tv Guide and Florida travel ad for Northwest Airlines. 4. doc then Gaines Prime dogood ad for General Foods. 11 pm news in color, Ad for Montclair ciarettes 5. gang dog 6. cont'd 7. cont'd and ad for Bromo Seltzer 8. Ruffino Chianti, Rolaids and doc 9. doc 10. Winston Filtered Cigarettes ad, Betty Crocker Frozen Treats ad, Channel 9 ads, then New show Let's Go the Races" (Horse racing) (Date November 4, 1960?) War Circle wines. 11. King Corn, Bermudea travel 12. New horse race, ad for Johnson vs. Goldwater race, (1964) CDIV WNET conversation about mixed race marriages on WNET 1-12. Next show is November 17 at 9pm 13. New program, Peter Davis, host: Six teenagers talking about television. Show: The Comers (could have aired at 7pm, if this is same day as Hot Line, below). -15. CDV 1. con'td report, Books. con'td then ads for Peyton Place show, Lady Plumber, Van Hearn Shoes 2. back to show 3. -4. Jumps to Les Crane Show (WABC-TV) Guests: Two former Miss Americas Yolande Betbeze and Evelyn Margaret Ay; Groucho Marx, Jimmy Breslin. Ads for Muriel Cigars. 8. cuts to Groucho Marx interview (same show) -11. Ad for Arid deoderant 12. Jimmy Breslin, guest spot. Jumps to different show (channel changed?) Anthony Quinn interview on TV (call in show: Hotline, Channel 11 ABC, 11:15 pm, November 10, 1964 Guests: Quinn, Elizabeth Taylor, Mitch Miller, David Susskind, Dorothy Killgallen) until 3. 3-6, channel changing 7. talking with feedback on radio show, mention of Smith on 8. ends on 12. with WOR ID and mention of Bob Downs and editor of magazine. CDVII 1. In loft. Smith and others talking, (including Nathan Lyons). 2. publications and slides discussed (for teaching set, to market and distribute) 3. cont'd 4. philosophy and approach to curriculum, "this year...Photography 65" 5. cont'd 6. Smith reposnds, mentions Miami cnference tapes and his debate with Wilson Hicks. Smith in Japan discussed and photography of other countries. 7. cont'd discussion and Ryan arrives at loft 8. serving coffee, discussing teaching and hosting a symposium mention of John, not in loft 9. Robert Frank mention ("I talked to Bob Frank earlier today.") 10. "our exhbitions..." coffee with Smith and Carole, mentions cat 11. discussion includes, money, Rouault, Chaos, and New school scloss, regarding Dave Heath 12. Dave Heath and Minneapolis. Tapes, Dave's book layout in loft, Smith talks about the session being on tape. 12. Dave Heath story, stayed 5 hours after class. 13. cont'd long discussion and Smith's class tapes. Detroit speech tape by Smith 14. cont'd CDVIII 1. discussion about 25 print portfolio worth $300. mention of Walker Evean, Adamson, Robert Frank, Edward Weston, and others. 2. photo graphy and sales talk, mentions Aaron Siskind's success selling prints through a gallery 3. cont'd 4. cont'd 5. coffee serveiw and Smith on the Big Book and Japan. 6. Smith on Jampan and printing, includes gravure discussion 7. cont'd. CDIX 1. cont'd 2. cont'd 3. Monograph series, clothbound boo and pricing. Trick for prints: Johnson's Paste Wax. 4. cont'd pringint discussion. and siren, 6. Shipping and packaginig for prints. 7. Ken Tiding, foot specialist recommended to Smith 8. Smith on home made cure for his foot, involving Scholl's pad and rubber bands. Smith's account of osteopathy and acupuncture for his foot/feet. 9. con'td stories of alternative cures 10. Harvard placebo effect sotry and Smith on the comparison of voodoo doctors and Western doctors 11. Smith story about docotro and travel -13. 14. Smith mentions Spanish Village trip. CDX 1. cont'd Smith on Spanish Village: "Please tell the truth" (citizen said to Smith). Guardia Civil interaction 2. cont'd Ronnie Jacques, Canadian photographer referenced 3. Smith on Candadian brain surgeon Penfiels (failed Life story) 4. Smith sleeping pill story 5. cont'd hospital story. Dr. Dorrance, roughest hands, looked like Daddy Warbucks. Oral surgeon and dentist talk . 6. cont'd CDXI 1. loft ambient and footstpes conversation (Nathan Lyons and Smith) 2. SPE slide sets 3. symposium about the history of photogrpahy "end of this month" November 1964. 4. kids and language and visual language. 5. "Photographers on PHtography" Nathan Lyons talking about book that came out later on May 15, 1966. Just getting started in 1964. Potography '65 publication discussed. 6. Smith criticism of William Klein. Smith saying some tapes were stolen while he was in Japan. 7. Carole Thomas enters, this overlaps with previous part of tape, perhaps more audible -11. mention of Chaos and Dave heath 12. last track CDXII 1. Dave Heath cont'd overlap with CDVII. Ends with print making talk on track 9. CDXIII cont'd overlap from CD7 and 8. begins with Lyons and Smith and Carole on book printing issues 7. Ken Tidings, podiatrist 10. alternative cures 14. "Please tell the truth" 15. method of Spanish Village CDXIV 1. cont'd overlap, Ronnie Jacques -5. requiem after oral surgeon and dentist talk. ;

Note 1: "7 1/2. 1st side finish of Kabuki Begun (not at beginning) on reel 234, noted on 235. 2nd side. may 3, 1962. Gene and Carole. Tired, draggen rambling about layout, camera, construction, etc."; Note 2: CDI 1. Kabuki and other on TV and radio 2. end of other show, Kabuki cont'd 3. cont'd -7. CDII 1. W. Eugene Smith and Carole Thomas in Japan, coversation 2. -5. caol in Japan stell making, Smith: Japan coal is good for fire, bad for steel. 6. Smith on iron hooks 7. Leica Pittsburh, Smith's invention of splitting mirrors for retro focus. Technical discussion. 8. cont'd and getting ready to go somewhere 9. cont'd shifts to printing "you're getting drunk, how can you say I'm better. " mention of Monk, Faulkner, and Carole's printing, ferrocyanide. 10. looking for Tokyo tower, film talk 11. cont'd talk. CDIII 1. cont'd conversation, cropping photographs, narcotics, 2. small talk, mentions Bruce Downes 3. cont'd with putter and and specific photo talk ;

Note 1: "Begins with a play or movie. Stereo. Traffic noises and conversations among other things. Gene talks of Lorant, signed agreements, lost revolutions, paradise for 50 dollars. Carole doesn't look it. I did not resign in anger. Maybe with Okamoto 1960."; Note 2: CDI 1. In loft. ambient, muted sound recording drones -4. some street noise 5. drone stops Bill and Tom pass on the steps 11. clear truck sound 12. whistle, ambient CDII 1. loft ambient 2. street voices, street sounds 2. silence to ambient street with buzz-5. CDIII 1. Smith talking with ?Richard Okamoto? Mentions: Carole, Larry Shustak, Okinawa and Hitachi LTD 2. Hitachi talk, Knowles Awlton, Cosmo Pr 3. cont'd talk, mentions Noguchi 4. cont'd 5. Pending enters. Ted Runge follows and says: "found this monster wandering in the streets." Bill "brother in law" and camera talk, mentions working at Willoughby's 6. Okamoto on Japan 1960. mention of Harry Belafonte LP. 7. Smith in Miami, John Durniak, Okamoto's conversation with Eve Arnold. Magnum Photography. 8. Smith and his financial history 9. On Stefan Lorannt, Carole arrive in loft 10. paradise Garden ad sotry and selling rights to the image. Ad work and depression of Smith lightened by Carole: "so damn talented." 11. Smith on photography ideal 12. mention of Jeff Gordon CDIV 1. loft ambient and tv radio drama, Smith hums to self 2. ambeint 3. cont'd 4. "Gene" (Carole) 5. details of Okamoto, directions for him in NY 6. Smith working with mic New sound, ambient from street, small talk 7. Bruce Downes and Jeff Gordon discussed. Gordon as potential agent for Smith. 8. Smith about John Rawlings, Simon and Schuster, Ziff Davis;